Lie Tiong Lie lies again!??

First it was lying about the Bersih 2.0 incident about the Police not shooting into the Hospital
Then it was about the Kedai Rakyat 1 Malaysia scandal.

Now he top it off with paying RM20,000.00 for a number plate!
Just when I thought BN Minister (such as this guy!) couldn't get any dumber!

His President comes in to defend him with an even dumber ("left hand to the right hand") defense.
Someone should teach him about simple economic principal such a "opportunity cost".
If left hand gives right hand, that means the govt does not earn the potential RM20,000.00 lah!

From Malaysiakini

Health Minister Liow Tiong Lai was today overwhelmed by a barrage of questions over his RM24,200 bid for the WWW15 vehicle number-plate, which at times left him fumbling for answers.
At a press conference at the MCA headquarters in Kuala Lumpur, Liow said he was unsure who had forked out the money, but was certain that his ministry did not foot the bill.

While claiming that he did not place importance on specific digits, he struggled for answers when asked why such large sum of money was spent for the number-plate.

He skirted the question and said he did not know what the cost was when the bid was made.

Liow repeatedly stressed his "eligibility" as a minister to obtain such number-plates and that his officers and Road Transport Department (JPJ) officers had handled the matter.

Occasionally, MCA president Dr Chua Soi Lek had to step in to assist his deputy, explaining that the money was just going "from the left hand to the right hand" as all the money goes to a government consolidated fund from all ministries.

Liow yesterday defended the bid, saying his ministry was replacing his official car and there was a need for a new number-plate.
Earlier today, Chinese newspaper Sin Chew Daily had quoted an unnamed officer as saying that the Treasury has never allocated any funds for ministers to submit bids for a number-plate for their official cars.

Excerpts follow of the dialogue between Liow and reporters; these have been edited for language and brevity:
Journalist: Who paid the bid for the number-plate?

Liow: I mentioned yesterday that this is a government official car, and so ministers are eligible to have one number-plate, so the process is official.

We are just going through the office and applying to the JPJ. JPJ is the one which processes the application.

Journalist: Is the ministry paying the bill? Who paid for this?

Liow: No. No. It’s all up to JPJ to handle this, we leave it to JPJ ..

Journalist: But who paid the cost, I know the process is handled by JPJ but who paid the cost?

Liow: I got to check, I’m not sure, it’s under JPJ.

Journalist: That means you didn’t pay to bid for that particular...

Liow: Like I said, ministers are eligible for one number, so I didn’t exercise the option earlier, so since my ministry is changing the car, so they just changed it.

Journalist: So you are saying your officer handled this?

Liow: Yes.

Chua: Usually this option is given to members of the administration both at state and federal (levels). So when you are in exco, you are entitled to officially bid for a number, or the state government will give you a number.

Journalist: Does that mean that when you are allowed to bid, you have to use your own money?

Chua: No, the government allows you to allocate a number, you can ask for a number. Of course, you cannot go and bid (for) number one lah.

Journalist: I’m referring to a Sin Chew report today, they interviewed an official from the Ministry of Finance, they said there is no such allocation for (any) ministry...
Liow: There’s no need for allocation, it’s the eligibility of the minister [sic]. There’s no need for allocation at all.

But numbers to me are not important, I think most important is the service to people. For us, it is more important to carry out work efficiently.

Any number, I’m using (words inaudible) my car is using any number ... it’s not important to me. So doesn’t matter whether I get the 15, or 200 or 1,000. It doesn’t matter to me. More important thing is the official car and we can use the car to serve the people.

Journalist: Why use your own name to bid?

Liow: Well I’m the minister of health...
Journalist: Is that a normal practice?

Liow: It’s a normal practice, yes, maybe it creates a lot of confusion; it’s better that I clarify and let the public know.

Journalist: Was it worth it to (spend) RM20,000 for a number-plate?

Liow: No, because we do not know the cost. For me, when I applied we did not know the cost. It just happened that I need the numbers, I need the car that’s all. I did not know the cost.

Journalist: But normally when we bid we need to pay to bid, right?

Liow: No, as explained earlier, this is the eligibility of a minister [sic], official car, that’s all. Even Lim Guan Eng has one of this kind of official car. So every… either state or federal as explained by my (MCA) president just now…

Chua: At the state level, the excos are also entitled to one car, err, to a number.

Journalist: Does the number 15 mean anything special to you?

Liow: (Pauses) Well, just because my grandfather is using this number (on his car). Nothing special, there’s no special meaning to this number. It is just a number. That’s why I said ... to this number, it’s nothing special.

Journalist: But if it's nothing special, then no need to bid for the number-plate ..
Liow: Nothing special, I just need a number.

Journalist: Can be any number what ...
Liow: [word inaudible] That’s why I said, it can be any number, it can be any number, so I just choose the number and that’s it.

Journalist: But you don’t have to spend so much money on this number if any (number) is okay.

Liow: I’m okay with any number, yes.

Journalist: But then, why spend RM24,000 on this particular bid?
Liow: No, just because it just happens that I need to change the car, that’s why I need a number.

Journalist: Why not retain the number-plate from the previous car?

Liow: No, they’ve changed (to) the new car, the old car is still there, I cannot change the number.

Chua: Those are official cars, those numbers don’t belong to him actually.

Journalist: What happens to those old official cars?

Chua: Another person will use it, he cannot just transfer the number just like that.

[Questions shift to the recent Merdeka Centre poll which revealed that the approval rating for Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak had dipped, because of a plunge in Chinese support]

Journalist: Back to the car number-plate - some processes to clarify. What you are trying to say is if you buy a new car, you must bid for a new number-plate, you cannot use an old number-plate for a new car...

Liow: Because that’s old official car, I... umm, I’m, I’m…

Chua: You must understand, when it’s a ministry car, the car does not belong to him, you understand or not?

Journalist: Now that the number has been allocated, the RM24,200 comes from the ministry?

Liow: No, no, no, not allocated by ministry.

Journalist:Then where does it come from?

Chua: This is a question of the money from the left hand going to the right hand. Because all money goes to the government consolidated fund from any ministry.

Journalist: So you’re saying its just one ministry to another department?

Chua: Ahh... it’s just left hand to right, to be honest.

Journalist: Can I say number 15 is your favourite number?

Liow: I said earlier any number will do, I have no specific numbers. It just happened that I chose 15 - it doesn’t mean that it’s the favourite number.

DAP vs MCA which allows greater freedom?

Former DAP member, Tunku Abdul Aziz Tunku Ibrahim was told that he would not be nominated again to be a senator because he spoke up against the BERSIH 3.0 rally.(Which was against DAP's official stand)

However they offered him a new post on the Penang state think-tank.

But Tunku threw the offer back in the face of Lim Guan Eng and even insulted him.

How did Lim Guan Eng response to this?

 “I do not wish to exchange personal attacks with Tunku but wish to put on record the party’s appreciation for his contribution for the four years he has been the DAP’s national vice-chief,” he said.

 In the end Tunku Abdul Aziz Tunku Ibrahim resign himself and started supporting Najib while shooting DAP.

How about MCA?

 16 May 2012: The MCA disciplinary board has suspended the membership of Indera Mahkota division Youth chief David Choi for three years.

Choi is known for his strong stance against the Lynas rare earths refinery, which is being built in Gebeng, Pahang.

Board chairperson Michael Chen (left) told Chinese newspaper Sin Chew Daily that Choi can appeal against the decision.

The board had summoned Choi to defend himself against 20 complaints, including breaking ranks over the Lynas issue and damaging the reputation of Indera Mahkota MCA division head Pang Tsu Ming.

Despite objections from within the party, the outspoken Youth leader had taken part in the anti-Lynas street protest last year in Kuantan, as well as the Himpinan Hijau 3.0 rally last month in Kuala Lumpur.


These are actual facts. Judge for yourself!

Mahathir was right!

UMNO leaders are all arrogant, insensitive idiots!

A perfect example of this is Higher Education Minister Khaled Nordin.

His “arrogant” tweet reaction to them (Demonstrators of PTPTN at Dataran Merdeka) being attacked by a mob last night has really pissed of a lot of students!

This morning, Khaled tweeted: “No one asked them to camp out at Dataran Merdeka. When something happens, don’t go asking for sympathy”.

Instead of condemning the attacked and asking the Police to make sure the perpetrators are arrested, he had to give such a sarcastic and arrogant statement. How is this idiot our Minister of Higher Education?!?

Not to be outdone, Umno information chief Ahmad Maslan has rubbished attempts to link UMNO to the thugs who attacked students protestors in Dataran Merdeka last night.

"If there is a car tyre punctured by the side of the road, that is Umno's fault. If there is a motorcyle punctured, that is also Umno's fault.

“If there is a bicycle tyre punctured on a deserted road in the middle of the forest, that too is Umno's fault," sniped the deputy minister.

Pressed further on eyewitnesses claims that the attackers were indeed Umno linked thugs and of apparent police inaction against the perpetrators, Ahmad brushed the allegations aside.

"I don't know, I was asleep last night. People sleep at home, not in the middle of a field," he told reporters at the Parliament lobby.

AGAIN another UMNO leader showing how to be arrogant and scarcastic instead of showing interest in justice or concern about the well being of the Malaysian youth!

How can these people be the leaders of our country?!

And so that everyone in UMNO are on the same page,

Home Minister Hishammuddin Hussein today called on the public to be wary of claims that the student protesters camping out at Dataran Merdeka were attacked.

Falling short of condemning such attacks, he said such allegations can be spread through mobile text messages and online media to stoke public anger.

“There have been such cases where allegations of such nature have been used...to raise emotions, be it in the areas of race, religion and now involving students,” he said.

He added that it is important to differentiate between real and fake allegations, also advising the public not to react.

“Let the necessary agencies investigate, and at the moment the one who has control... of Dataran Merdeka is the Kuala Lumpur City Council (DBKL) and I don’t see it as a major security issue,” he said.

FOR A Home minister he has shown that he has absolutely no idea on how to do his job!

His statement shows lack of urgency or even an ounce of concern for those hurt by the attacks!

And as expected (MCA being good lap dogs for UMNO), MCA Youth education bureau chairperson Chong Sin Woon hoped that the opposition would discourage the public from holding frequent demonstrations.

“(We) hope the opposition now realises that in their feverish calls to Malaysians to participate in one demonstration after another be it in Malaysia or globally, reactions from their detractors may arise.

I think this idiot Chong should go and live in North Korea as he obviously do not understand or appreciate the value of living in a democratic country where people are free to voice their stand without the fear of being beaten by those who do not agree with their believes!

But I guess you can't blame him! As an MCA leader he must be use to just accepting what UMNO say without voicing out their disagreement for fear of being beaten up!!

IDIOTS!! We need to change the government!

I wish they will make up their minds!

UMNO tells Malays that if opposition wins, then DAP will control PAS and they will loose their rights!

MCA tells non-Malays that if opposition wins, then PAS will control DAP and turn the country into an Islamic State!

WHICH IS WHICH LAH!

But Mahathir has already declared Malaysia as an Islamic State already! So why didn't MCA say something about it then?

On 29th September 2001, in his opening address during Gerakan’s 30th national delegates conference, the then Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamed announced that Umno wishes to state loudly and clearly that Malaysia is already an Islamic country. This is based on the opinion of ulamaks (religious scholars) who had clarified what constitutes an Islamic country. If Malaysia is not an Islamic country because it does not implement the Hudud, then there are no Islamic countries in the world.

Almost 11 years ago, Tun Dr Mahathir said very loudly and clearly: Malaysia is already an Islamic country. Country, state, nation, nation-state, kingdom, republic, or whatever, it all means the same. The long and the short of it: Malaysia is already an Islamic country. That was what Tun Dr Mahathir announced almost 11 years ago.

So why is the MCA youth secretary-general, Chai Kim Sen, now announcing that DAP wants to help PAS set up an Islamic State? Malaysia, according to Tun Dr Mahathir, is already an Islamic state, country, nation, nation-state, or whatever. How can you turn an already Islamic State into an Islamic State? Aiyah, can you see how bad Chinese mother-tongue education can be? It makes idiots out of these Chinese politicians.

If Malaysia is not yet an Islamic State, contrary to what Tun Dr Mahathir said almost 11 years ago, why did MCA keep quiet then? Why did MCA not foam at the mouth and call Tun Dr Mahathir a liar 11 years ago? Why only now, 11 year later, make so much noise?

What the former Lord President, Tun Salleh Abas, said back in 2002 is another interesting point. The Barisan Nasional government trapped itself when it declared that Malaysia is an Islamic state, said Tun Salleh.

"The statement has trapped BN and Umno. If they think Malaysia is an Islamic country, then why do they object against PAS' attempt to implement Islamic laws? If this is an Islamic State they should support the implementation of Islamic laws," he told Malaysiakini in an exclusive interview. (Read the Malaysiakini interview below).

That’s right. If Malaysia is already an Islamic State then why whack PAS? How can you accuse PAS of trying to turn Malaysia into an Islamic State, with the help of DAP according to MCA, if Malaysia is already an Islamic State?

There appears to be some confusion here. Well, actually there is no confusion. It is just that the politicians are trying to confuse us. They are hoping that we are stupid just like them and that we will not detect the lies and spins in what they are saying. That is all it is: lies and spins.

Either Malaysia is already an Islamic State or it is not. If it is, then MCA is lying. If it is not, then Tun Dr Mahathir was lying. The bottom line is, one of the two were lying. So who is lying: Tun Dr Mahathir or MCA?

Anyway, why are the kafir from MCA talking about Islam? Isn’t Islam a matter for the Muslims to sort out? Did not the Crown Prince of Perak say a few days ago that there should not be any debate/argument on Islam? And that means the kafir from MCA as well. You mean to say that Muslims like me must not talk about Islam while thekafir laknat from MCA can talk about Islam? Where got road one?

MCA is making Islam sound like it is something bad. Islam, Communism, Al Qaedah, Taliban, Jews, Israel, the IRA, corruption, AIDS, gays, porn, prostitution, China Dolls, free sex…they are all put into the same box. Isn’t it time that Islam not be treated as the pariah of society? When you want to whack someone you say he or she is gay, immoral, corrupted, a prostitute, or an Islamist.

If MCA is so against Islam or an Islamic State then they should have spoken up 11 years ago. They should have either protested when Tun Dr Mahathir announced that Malaysia is already an Islamic State or they should have called him a liar.

The Islamic State issue is a basi issue lah! Most Malaysians no longer buy this argument. Most Malaysians no longer care a damn. Most Malaysians are not worried whether the government cuts off the hands of thieves when those who will lose their hands would be the corrupt police officers, civil servants and politicians from Barisan Nasional. In fact, most of the leaders and ex-leaders of MCA would be the ones walking around without hands.

Bring on Hudud. I have no problems with it. I do not steal the rakyat’s money. It is the politicians who do. I am even prepared to volunteer to do the hand chopping. Chop, chop, chop…I just love Hudud. Thieves and corrupt politicians beware.

This is what they do to robbers and corrupt officials/politicians in China

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‘DAP will help PAS set up Islamic state’

DAP’s real agenda is to pave the way for PAS to establish a hardline Islamic state, MCA youth secretary-general Datuk Chai Kim Sen said.

He said the statement by DAP Youth chief Anthony Loke Siew Fook that Pakatan Rakyat could win 120 parliamentary seats in the coming general election to form the next federal government was in fact a cover for PAS to establish an Islamic state.

“It is an undisputable fact that should Pakatan Rakyat control Putrajaya, religion-based policies will follow soon after.

“PAS has already stated repeatedly that it will gradually implement Islamic policies once it has control over the Federal Government,” he said in a statement.

Chai said this is not the first time that the DAP has helped to boost support for PAS by hiding the truth.

He said the DAP’s plan to place Pakatan Rakyat in Putrajaya was actually an agenda to control the decision-making process to allow PAS to fulfil its ambitions of an Islamic state.

“DAP knows that should they control the Federal Government, Islamisation by PAS is inevitable, and the more they cover up the truth, the more the facts will be exposed,” he said. -- The Star, 5 April 2012

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BN trapped itself with Islamic state declaration: Salleh Abas

The Barisan Nasional government trapped itself when it declared that Malaysia is an Islamic state, said former Lord President Tun Salleh Abas.

"The statement has trapped BN and Umno. If they think Malaysia is an Islamic country, then why do they object against PAS' attempt to implement Islamic laws? If this is an Islamic state they should support the implementation of Islamic laws," he told malaysiakini in an exclusive interview.

He said Umno put itself in a 'Catch-22' situation when Prime Minister Dr Mahathir Mohamad announced on Sept 29 last year that Malaysia is an Islamic state. "I think they got caught with the statement to counter DAP's claim that Malaysia is a secular country."

Asked if Malaysia is an Islamic or secular state, Salleh replied that the country was currently a secular state.

"At the moment, we live in a secular country. The Federal Constitution and the laws state clearly that we are living in a secular state.

"However, it is right to say that Malaysia is an Islamic country, population wise, because the majority of her citizens are Muslims. But it is wrong to say that we have an Islamic government," he said.

This is not injustice or corruption. Just plain stupidity!

Usually I try to highlight only injustice in this Country but I think the fact that this group of people can be so stupid and still in power is an injustice by itself!

First up we have Ceylyn Tay who back in Jan7 2012 had showed her stupidity in a video clip.

This Ipoh City Council member from Gerakan wasted no time launching into a tirade against Pakatan Rakyat, arguing that the birth of coalition had led to more racialism resulting in an undesirable “two-race system”. As such, Malaysia should not have a two-party system.

Tay has also earned herself the moniker ‘Ms Equality’ due to portions of her speech in which she said the Chinese community cannot expect equal treatment because they are a minority.

In the clip, Tay accused the DAP of pitting the Chinese against one another by using a strategy of urging voters to punish Umno by voting out MCA and Gerakan.

“But people do not see a problem with this logic – A commits a crime, B is punished and C is used to suppress A. What does this have to do with B?” she asked.

On the 1Malaysia slogan, Tay told the audience that Chinese Malaysians must be realistic because Malays make up the majority of the people. As such, complete equality cannot be expected.

She said Malaysia should not have a two-party system because its society is not homogenous, unlike in the US or UK.

“A two-party system such as in the US and UK can exist because they are single-race countries. In a single-race country, you can have a two-party system because there is no racial differences.

“But in Malaysia, we can’t. The worst outcome here is to have a two-race system. This is not beneficial to the Chinese. Everyone should think carefully.”

A number of YouTube and Facebook commenters have retorted to her anti-two-party system outburst by asking: “Is Obama white?”

Some of the interactions she has had with critics happened on her Facebook page, which Tay has temporarily disabled because some critics had acted ‘unreasonably’.

“(Moreover,) my Facebook page has a lot of pictures of me at work. I don’t want them using Photoshop to doctor these pictures,” she said.

Tay later clarified that she had taken down her Facebook fan page, not her Facebook page.

2nd is Jessie Ooi (right), a Selangor MCA activist, who has become an Internet sensation of sorts because of the manner in which she posed a question to Lim Guan Eng in a recent debate.

"I am ‘half' a Penangite. You always talk about lightening the people's burden. But assessment rates are up. All prices are going up.

"Moreover, at 10.30pm at night, I saw this twice with my own eyes, 10.30pm the roads are devoid of cars, but you still ask enforcement officers to tow cars.

"It concluded with a fight where there were severe injuries. How do you explain this security issue? Is this called lightening the people's burden?" she said.

The stupid girl did not know that assessment rates in Penang has not been increase since 2007. Price of goods going up is a federal govt problem, idiot! And as for the tow truck issue, the stupid girls must not understand that breaking the law is breaking the law no matter what time of the night it is or the fact that it does not inconvenient anyone! IDIOTS!

3rd is the Home Ministry who had banned the sale of a children’s sex education book written by a British author, saying its contents “could threaten moral values”.

It had yesterday ordered bookstores to suspend sales of ‘Where did I come from?’ by Peter Mayle, pending further investigations.

The 44-page illustrated book published in 1984 aims to help parents explain to children such topics as sex, conception and birth.

The Home Ministry said in a statement that the book was deemed harmful to society after critics complained it contained graphic illustrations.

“The Home Ministry today has decided to ban the book... because it contained elements which could threaten moral values and is offensive to the public,” Abdul Rahim Mohamad Radzi, deputy secretary-general of security, said.

Abdul Rahim warned that those who breached the order risked being jailed for up to three years.

It took the Home Ministry 28 years to banned the booked?!?! Those pictures are cartoon illustration on how human reproduce. It is factually correct without any form of dirty content!

How did those idiots in the Home Ministry see this as bad but allows our streets and pasar malam to be filled with paddlers selling porn is beyond believe!

4th is another fool from the MCA.

Selangor MCA deputy head of public and services complaint bureau, Allan Liew Sin Kim, lodged a police report against the Penang chief minister, accompanied by five complainants at the Kajang police station.

According to the police report, Liew noted that Lim had uttered “PAS never killed a Chinese” during the wrap-up session of the head-to-head debate which was telecast live.

Liew said that the Chinese community did not understand the true meaning of this remark and felt worried and afraid as Lim was playing on a racial issue.

Thus, he wants the police to investigate Lim on whether he had violated “any racial issue laws”.

Allan Liew must be suffering from the same intellectually challenging illness like Jessie Ooi. Taking the CM's remark literally, it means PAS did not commit any serious offence against the Chinese. How can such a remark be deemed racist or dangerous?

Finally courtesy of NIAMAH!

The Star today is courtesy of the deputy prime minister, Muhyiddin Yassin. He's always good for a laugh.

He was quoted as saying, "Victory for Pakatan will result in changes in the laws upheld by Barisan Nasional all this while."

Errr.......Mr. Deputy Prime Minister....and your point is? The people want changes in a lot of things upheld by Barisan Nasional all this while, kan? That's why
we vote in elections. No ah? That's why governments are voted in and out. No ah?

I bet you won't read about this in the Star!!!

Penang MCA Youth chief, 439 others quit party

In a surprise move last night, Penang MCA Youth chief Eng Hiap Boon resigned from all his party posts, citing disappointment with the MCA leadership.

Eng (right) said 439 members have also resigned together with him, resulting in two MCA branches in the state being shut down.

"My comrades and I are very disappointed with the party's leaders, who are currently facing immoral and unethical issues in their leadership," Eng told a press conference in George Town last night.

Infighting within the party, he added, continued to grow and the leaders have refused to engage with the grassroots or serve the people genuinely.

Eng is known to be a "hardcore supporter" of former MCA president Ong Tee Keat, but he said his departure from the party was his own decision.

He also said that he understood some 500 party members from Johor may also have resigned from the MCA about the same time (last night), causing the dissolution of five branches in the process.

"I don't know when this tide will stop, but the MCA leadership should really conduct a self-examination," Eng said.

A member of the leading Chinese Malaysian party for 18 years, Eng criticised the MCA leadership for being "disloyal, lacking in integrity, being immoral and having no righteousness".

‘Those who work are run down'

He added: "The leadership is facing some moral issues and appears ignorant about the problems faced by the Chinese community.

"The worse thing is when members committed to serving the people and initiate welfare work, but their ‘reward' is a cut on their faces."

Eng was referring to incidents where certain members have had their banners promoting their party work torn down by certain quarters, but he would not reveal those behind the vandalism.

He has held seven positions in the party, including as Berapit state constituency coordinator.

He said among the 439 members who joined him in quitting the party were five branch Youth chiefs, seven elected state Youth executive committee members and 12 Youth divisional council members.

"We are still collecting more signatures and member cards from those who have decided to quit," Eng said.

He also claimed that after the March 2008 general election, Penang MCA hired "gunners or cybertroopers" to take charge of the party's statements, but none of them were paid a single sen for their worjk.

"MCA leaders only know how to cheat and do not keep their pledges.

"The party members are ageing and incapable of fighting with the new government after the 2008 loss, especially in the area of publicity," he complained.

"Hence, they hire people to write for them. These are who we call ‘gunners', but they are not paid at all," he added.

Chua accused of vote buying

Eng also accused party president Dr Chua Soi Lek of vote buying before the last MCA election by handing out money to all veteran members, instead of spending the funds to help the public.

Although MCA is the second largest Chinese-based political party in the world, Eng said, he felt ashamed to be seen as a party member as "this is a rotten party, led by a dirty president".

He denied being disloyal to the party, explaining that he could not accept what has been done to it by the leadership.

"For many years, I can still remember all the infighting within the party. Although it is easy to avoid an open attack, it is difficult to prevent the dirty tactics.

"Sometimes, my supporters were threatened by gangsters and have been targets of malicious allegations. I experienced these as well. Is this MCA's culture?" he asked.

"It is better to leave now and explore new platforms to do some welfare activities," Eng said, adding that he was currently committed to NGO work and would not join any other political party.

On a related matter, Eng criticised Penang state MCA chairperson Dr Ng Yen Yen for her "incompetence" in not calling for a state party meeting in the last three to four months.

He said such incompetent leaders would make it difficult for the MCA to regain Penang in the coming general election, which could even be called in the first quarter of next year.