I wish they will make up their minds!

UMNO tells Malays that if opposition wins, then DAP will control PAS and they will loose their rights!

MCA tells non-Malays that if opposition wins, then PAS will control DAP and turn the country into an Islamic State!

WHICH IS WHICH LAH!

But Mahathir has already declared Malaysia as an Islamic State already! So why didn't MCA say something about it then?

On 29th September 2001, in his opening address during Gerakan’s 30th national delegates conference, the then Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamed announced that Umno wishes to state loudly and clearly that Malaysia is already an Islamic country. This is based on the opinion of ulamaks (religious scholars) who had clarified what constitutes an Islamic country. If Malaysia is not an Islamic country because it does not implement the Hudud, then there are no Islamic countries in the world.

Almost 11 years ago, Tun Dr Mahathir said very loudly and clearly: Malaysia is already an Islamic country. Country, state, nation, nation-state, kingdom, republic, or whatever, it all means the same. The long and the short of it: Malaysia is already an Islamic country. That was what Tun Dr Mahathir announced almost 11 years ago.

So why is the MCA youth secretary-general, Chai Kim Sen, now announcing that DAP wants to help PAS set up an Islamic State? Malaysia, according to Tun Dr Mahathir, is already an Islamic state, country, nation, nation-state, or whatever. How can you turn an already Islamic State into an Islamic State? Aiyah, can you see how bad Chinese mother-tongue education can be? It makes idiots out of these Chinese politicians.

If Malaysia is not yet an Islamic State, contrary to what Tun Dr Mahathir said almost 11 years ago, why did MCA keep quiet then? Why did MCA not foam at the mouth and call Tun Dr Mahathir a liar 11 years ago? Why only now, 11 year later, make so much noise?

What the former Lord President, Tun Salleh Abas, said back in 2002 is another interesting point. The Barisan Nasional government trapped itself when it declared that Malaysia is an Islamic state, said Tun Salleh.

"The statement has trapped BN and Umno. If they think Malaysia is an Islamic country, then why do they object against PAS' attempt to implement Islamic laws? If this is an Islamic State they should support the implementation of Islamic laws," he told Malaysiakini in an exclusive interview. (Read the Malaysiakini interview below).

That’s right. If Malaysia is already an Islamic State then why whack PAS? How can you accuse PAS of trying to turn Malaysia into an Islamic State, with the help of DAP according to MCA, if Malaysia is already an Islamic State?

There appears to be some confusion here. Well, actually there is no confusion. It is just that the politicians are trying to confuse us. They are hoping that we are stupid just like them and that we will not detect the lies and spins in what they are saying. That is all it is: lies and spins.

Either Malaysia is already an Islamic State or it is not. If it is, then MCA is lying. If it is not, then Tun Dr Mahathir was lying. The bottom line is, one of the two were lying. So who is lying: Tun Dr Mahathir or MCA?

Anyway, why are the kafir from MCA talking about Islam? Isn’t Islam a matter for the Muslims to sort out? Did not the Crown Prince of Perak say a few days ago that there should not be any debate/argument on Islam? And that means the kafir from MCA as well. You mean to say that Muslims like me must not talk about Islam while thekafir laknat from MCA can talk about Islam? Where got road one?

MCA is making Islam sound like it is something bad. Islam, Communism, Al Qaedah, Taliban, Jews, Israel, the IRA, corruption, AIDS, gays, porn, prostitution, China Dolls, free sex…they are all put into the same box. Isn’t it time that Islam not be treated as the pariah of society? When you want to whack someone you say he or she is gay, immoral, corrupted, a prostitute, or an Islamist.

If MCA is so against Islam or an Islamic State then they should have spoken up 11 years ago. They should have either protested when Tun Dr Mahathir announced that Malaysia is already an Islamic State or they should have called him a liar.

The Islamic State issue is a basi issue lah! Most Malaysians no longer buy this argument. Most Malaysians no longer care a damn. Most Malaysians are not worried whether the government cuts off the hands of thieves when those who will lose their hands would be the corrupt police officers, civil servants and politicians from Barisan Nasional. In fact, most of the leaders and ex-leaders of MCA would be the ones walking around without hands.

Bring on Hudud. I have no problems with it. I do not steal the rakyat’s money. It is the politicians who do. I am even prepared to volunteer to do the hand chopping. Chop, chop, chop…I just love Hudud. Thieves and corrupt politicians beware.

This is what they do to robbers and corrupt officials/politicians in China

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‘DAP will help PAS set up Islamic state’

DAP’s real agenda is to pave the way for PAS to establish a hardline Islamic state, MCA youth secretary-general Datuk Chai Kim Sen said.

He said the statement by DAP Youth chief Anthony Loke Siew Fook that Pakatan Rakyat could win 120 parliamentary seats in the coming general election to form the next federal government was in fact a cover for PAS to establish an Islamic state.

“It is an undisputable fact that should Pakatan Rakyat control Putrajaya, religion-based policies will follow soon after.

“PAS has already stated repeatedly that it will gradually implement Islamic policies once it has control over the Federal Government,” he said in a statement.

Chai said this is not the first time that the DAP has helped to boost support for PAS by hiding the truth.

He said the DAP’s plan to place Pakatan Rakyat in Putrajaya was actually an agenda to control the decision-making process to allow PAS to fulfil its ambitions of an Islamic state.

“DAP knows that should they control the Federal Government, Islamisation by PAS is inevitable, and the more they cover up the truth, the more the facts will be exposed,” he said. -- The Star, 5 April 2012

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BN trapped itself with Islamic state declaration: Salleh Abas

The Barisan Nasional government trapped itself when it declared that Malaysia is an Islamic state, said former Lord President Tun Salleh Abas.

"The statement has trapped BN and Umno. If they think Malaysia is an Islamic country, then why do they object against PAS' attempt to implement Islamic laws? If this is an Islamic state they should support the implementation of Islamic laws," he told malaysiakini in an exclusive interview.

He said Umno put itself in a 'Catch-22' situation when Prime Minister Dr Mahathir Mohamad announced on Sept 29 last year that Malaysia is an Islamic state. "I think they got caught with the statement to counter DAP's claim that Malaysia is a secular country."

Asked if Malaysia is an Islamic or secular state, Salleh replied that the country was currently a secular state.

"At the moment, we live in a secular country. The Federal Constitution and the laws state clearly that we are living in a secular state.

"However, it is right to say that Malaysia is an Islamic country, population wise, because the majority of her citizens are Muslims. But it is wrong to say that we have an Islamic government," he said.

Issue on Hudud Law

This blog respect the rights of Muslim to freely practice their own religious laws as long as it does not infringe on the rights of the non-Muslims in Malaysia.

Malaysian should not stop other people from practicing their religious believes just because they are scare of it!

Malaysian Justice is against the Home Ministry for pursing the case of banning the use of the word Allah in the Alkitab. MJ is also against the practice of body snatching in this country!

The govt (which includes MCA) should look into this issue immediately!!

HERE IS A VERY GOOD DEBATE WITH REGARDS TO HUDUD LAW!

Stupid news on Malaysiakini!

I mean I am gonna copy the style of one of my favorite blog.

Today I am highlighting some stupid thinks I have read on Malaysiakini!

1. MCA today called for the abolition of the Printing Presses and Publications Act (PPPA) to allow a level playing field for the mainstream media.

(Eh the last I check MCA is still in the govt. So why are they shouting like an opposition party?? Do something about it lah! U had 50 over years to fix this but only now U baru mau buat bising ah! Since they are doing such a good job at talking like the opposition, we should make sure they get the opposition job next election!)

2. Utusan Malaysia has lodged two police reports against Namewee over his tirade against the newspaper and its journalist Fauziah Arof following their criticisms of his latest movie 'Nasi Lemak 2.0'.

I laugh my head off when I read that Utusan legal advisor said that “Namewee's action is seen as (trying to) lowering the dignity of the journalist and Utusan Malaysia as racists, stupid, pulling down the image of the company, and containing extreme accusations and containing profanities,”

You can't destroy someone's reputation if the reputation has already been destroyed in the first place right???

3. The news that took 1st place for being the funniest crap today has got to be Chua Soi Lek reportedly saying...

"I consider myself a winnable candidate anywhere I go," Chua told a press conference at the sidelines of the MCA 58th annual general assembly .

The porn star should put his money where his mouth is and come to Penang and go head to head with Lim Guan Eng! Let see how winnable this arrogant porn star will be in this coming election!!

On a final note! This is a good article to help better understand the hudud law issue which stupid MCA is still barking on! Stop spreading false fear to the people of Malaysia!

The True Hollywood Story (on MCA vs DAP and Hudud Law)

Firstly I want to criticize TheSTAR for their very very one sided publication on the Hudud law issue!

Publishing only Ong Tee Kiat side of his story without giving Uncle Lim a chance to defend themselves (DAP) shows that the Star is nothing more that a political propaganda machinery for MCA!

TheStar has really lost all credibility and integrity as a legitimate national newspaper!

Now on to the hudud law issue!

It all started when Umno Youth deputy head Khairy Jamaluddin suckered PAS vice-president Datuk Husam Musa in a debate last Saturday night.

Khairy had sneakily got Hasam to stated that hudud and qisas laws would have been implemented if Pakatan Rakyat had managed to take control of the federal government as planned on Sept 16.

Of course DAP supremo Lim Kit Siang and Kapal Singh took to task Husam for his statement.

He further noted that DAP's stand - with the party being a member of the Pakatan alliance together with PAS and PKR - on Malaysia being a secular nation based on the social contract formulated in 1957 remained "consistent and unchanged".

So MCA taking advantages of this situation decide to join on the bandwagon and started sending memorandum to PAS.

In a move that temporarily stopped traffic, the MCA leaders then crossed the busy Jalan Raja Laut to unfold two banners in Malay and Chinese: Pemuda MCA membantah hukum hudud (MCA Youth against hudud laws).

BUT OF COURSE NO ARREST WERE MADE BY THE POLICE LAH!

Of course other BN component parties like Gerakan and MIC also took the turns to shoot PAS, DAP and PKR on this issue.

THE MAIN STORY is of course MCA president Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat asking DAP to boycott the Kuala Terengganu by-election campaign as a matter of principle if it is really against PAS’ plan to implement hudud and qisas laws if it comes to power at the national level.
"Mere words objecting to PAS vice-president Datuk Husam Musa’s statement on the issue would not suffice if not demonstrated by action,” Ong said in his latest posting in his blog

MY QUESTION IS THIS!

WHY DID WE NOT EVEN HEAR A WHISPER FROM MCA MIC AND GERAKAN when on...

Sept. 29, 2001, the then Prime Minister and Umno President, Datuk Seri Dr. Mahathir Mohamad declared that Malaysia was an Islamic State, committing the MCA without referring the issue first for consultation with and consent of the MCA leadership and membership.

In the past seven years, this “929 Declaration” that Malaysia is an Islamic State was repeated again and again by Umno leaders, the latest by the Prime-Minister-designate Datuk Seri Najib Razak, in July last year, with the MCA leadership continuing to give tacit support.

Why didn't MCA, MIC and Gerakan made a stand on this matter?!?

NOT EVEN A SOUND!

Even when they did make a sound on the ISA issue.... It is clear that UMNO will not listen to them!

At least DAP dare to stand toe to toe with PAS and whole them accountable for their action. This is more than I can say for the useless MCA leadership.

Base on what MCA President said, he should walk the talk and pull out of BN first before he is worthy to criticize DAP!

Actually I am very very disappointed with Ong Tee Keat! I thought he was finally the man to change MCA. However base on this issue and him white washing the RM4.6 billion Port Klang Free Zone (PKFZ) debacle, it is clear that this once great man is nothing more than a puppet to UMNO! Shame really!

If you wanna know why PAS can never implement hudud law, you should read RPK latest article on the Constantly Gambling Chinese! If not, you can wait for me to give you a summary of the article later!

Are you willing to support a coalition where UMNO has 99% of the power, leaving MCA MIC and Gerakan nothing more than mere lame puppets?

Or a coalition where DAP, PKR and PAS treat each other as equals! even through they may have disagreement.

Why don't we turn the tables around and ask UMNO if they are against hudud law and weather they consider Malaysia to be an Islamic state!

I would like to get's UMNO's reaction, as well as its coalition's partners counter response......IF ANY!

The Constantly Grumbling Chinese

Posted by admin Monday, 22 December 2008 12:44

Some Chinese say they refuse to vote for PAS because they are worried that PAS may implement Islamic laws. But how can PAS implement Islamic laws when they will never have a two-thirds majority in Parliament?

NO HOLDS BARRED

Raja Petra Kamarudin

Malays can sometimes be real assholes. But at least they are honest about it. Chinese can also sometimes be assholes as well. But they pretend to be something else whilst they are actually the opposite of what they pretend to be. In that sense the Chinese are hypocritical assholes. And this is where the Malays are better than the Chinese. The Malays are honest assholes while the Chinese are dishonest assholes.

Look at what MCA said yesterday. They want PKR and DAP to state their stand on the Hudud laws. But when Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad declared that Malaysia is already an Islamic state and therefore the Malays do not need PAS any more, MCA clapped and whistled just like trained seals in a circus. MCA should have demanded that Umno states its stand on the Hudud laws the day Mahathir made his announcement. What about the government proposal on the Syariah laws? What has MCA go to say about the matter? Why no response? Why as silent as a church mouse?
Look at the petition to the King and the Sultans. The Malays keep a respectful silence when it comes to the Rulers. Except for a handful of Malays, the majority of the Malays do not drag the Rulers through the mud. And you do not need the Sedition Act for the Malays to show respect to the Rulers.

The Chinese, however, grumble that the Rulers are a waste of money. "Why do we need Rulers?" the Chinese argue. "It just costs us a lot of money to maintain a Monarchy. And the Rulers do not do anything to earn their salary." But when we take the initiative to send petitions to the Rulers, these same Chinese will argue, "Why waste time with petitions? It is not like the Rulers will do anything."
So what do the Chinese really want? When they perceive the Rulers as not taking any action, they grumble. But when we take the initiative to bring to the Rulers' attention certain grievances of the rakyat, they also grumble. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Sometimes I get the impression that these Chinese get an orgasm by grumbling. Maybe it's a fetish thing, sort of like kinky sex.

Look at the issue of free speech. When I whack the Malays, I am a great guy. I am open. I am fair. I am a person who allows and practices freedom of expression. But, when I whack the Chinese, I am a racist pig. Whacking Malays is good for the country and in the spirit of free speech. Whacking the Chinese is a negative thing and bad for the country's future.

The Chinese do not believe in freedom of expression. They believe in the freedom to whack the Malays. And whacking the Chinese is not freedom of expression. It is racism.

Look at the issue of who to vote for in the elections. Barisan Nasional is evil. Barisan Nasional is Umno. The non-Malays have no say in Barisan Nasional. The non-Malays in Barisan Nasional are Umno's running dogs. But we Chinese must vote for Barisan Nasional because it is a devil we know. Pakatan Rakyat may be an angel but it is an angel we don't know. Better a devil we know than an angel we don't know.

The Malays are split into four groups. There are the Malays who support Ketuanan Melayu and the New Economic Policy. These Malays will vote for Umno come hell or high water. And they will defend Ketuanan Melayu and the New Economic Policy with their six-inch keris to the death. Then there are the Malays who support PAS, basically because they believe it is the Islamic thing to do. Then there are Malays who want to see transparency, good governance, freedom of expression and assembly, independence of the judiciary, an end to abuse of power and corruption, an end to police brutality, and all those other 'Western notions'. These Malays will vote for PKR. Then there are those Malays who don't care a damn and think that all politicians are hypocrites and politics is sheer bullshit. They don't bother to come out to vote or even to register as voters.

The Malays are clear in their leanings. They don't hide their feelings. They say it as they see it and you can go to hell if you don't like what they say for all they care. But you can't say the same about the Chinese. They grumble and grumble till the cows come home. But they will do the exact opposite of how they feel. They equate Barisan Nasional as the reincarnation of the devil. But then they will vote for Barisan Nasional because it is the devil they know and the devil they know is better than an angel they don't know.

Some Chinese say they refuse to vote for PAS because they are worried that PAS may implement Islamic laws. But how can PAS implement Islamic laws when they will never have a two-thirds majority in Parliament? PAS contested only 60 seats out of 222 Parliament seats. Then they went and won only 23 seats.

PAS needs about 150 seats in Parliament to change Malaysia from a Secular state into an Islamic state. But when they contest only 60 seats, even if they win all the 60 seats they contest it will still be only 60 seats. And they can't win all the seats they contest. They can only win less than half the seats they contest. Where would PAS get the 150 parliament seats it requires?

The Chinese counter this argument by saying that PAS can always team up with Umno to form an Islamic state. So better we vote for Barisan Nasional than vote for PAS. This will prevent PAS from teaming up with Umno to change Malaysia into an Islamic state.

Again, this argument does not make sense. If you refuse to vote for PAS because you are scared that PAS will team up with Umno to change Malaysia into an Islamic state, would voting for Umno instead of PAS prevent this? I mean; you are scared of a PAS-Umno alliance. So you refuse to vote for PAS and instead vote for Umno. Does this mean the alliance will not happen if this is what you suspect is going to happen? You are just transferring from the right pocket to the left pocket. The sum total still remains the same.

You transfer your vote from PAS to Umno. One seat less for PAS means an additional seat for Umno. Or you transfer your vote from Umno to PAS. One seat less for Umno means an additional seat for PAS. You are merely ding-donging from PAS to Umno and vice versa. Therefore, if PAS and Umno form an alliance, would not the number of 'Malay' seats total the same? How does 'robbing' PAS of one seat and giving that seat to Umno have any impact if PAS and Umno form an alliance?

Now, if Umno and DAP are face-to-face in that constituency and you vote for DAP instead of Umno, then this would make a difference. And if PAS faces MCA or Gerakan in that constituency and you vote for MCA or Gerakan, this too would make a difference. Then you are not giving the seat to either PAS or Umno; you are giving it to DAP or MCA or Gerakan. But DAP will face MCA or Gerakan, not Umno, while it is PAS that is facing Umno. So you either vote for PAS or Umno. There is no DAP to vote for. DAP is fighting MCA or Gerakan.

Anyway, PAS has 23 seats in Parliament. Umno has 66. Even if you add Umno Sabah into the equation, Umno's seats will come to only 79. 23 plus 66 equals 89. Add the 13 Umno Sabah seats and it still comes to only 102. 102 of 222 comes to less than 50% because 50% of 222 is 111.
So you are scared that PAS will betray us and team up with Umno. But if they do that they still do not have the two-thirds they need to change Malaysia into an Islamic state. In fact, they do not even have 50% of the seats. How do you, therefore, reconcile the 'logic' that you vote for Barisan Nasional instead of Pakatan Rakyat to prevent PAS from teaming up with Umno? But this is Chinese 'logic' for whatever it is worth.

Chinese demand mother-tongue education. They argue that vernacular schools offer better education than national schools. Many Chinese go to Chinese schools while Malays go to national schools, although some Malays do go to Chinese schools. But Malays can rationalise better than the Chinese can. Chinese may be better at mathematics. That I don't deny. But those Malays who are supposed to be weak in mathematics can count better than the Chinese. The Malays know that 23 plus 79 equals 102. And the Malays know that 50% of 222 is 111. The Chinese don't know this in spite of the fact they are better at mathematics than the Malays.

No, the Chinese are not poor in mathematics. They are not even stupid. They are in fact quite clever and, at times, cleverer than the Malays. It is just that the Chinese like to grumble. The Chinese are constantly grumbling. And they will raise all sorts of grievances -- the Malays this, the Malays that, the Chinese are second-class citizens, the Chinese are unfairly treated, the Malays are mean to the non-Malays, without the Chinese Malaysia would never have developed, Malaysia is what it is because of the Chinese, and so on and so forth. But ask them to act on their grievances and the Chinese will offer a million lame excuses why they will vote Barisan Nasional instead of Pakatan Rakyat.

You can't get the job because you have no experience and the job specifications stipulate they require at least three years experience. But how to get experience when you can't get a job? That is called 'Catch 22'. The Chinese refuse to vote opposition because, according to the Chinese, the opposition does not have a track record in government whilst Barisan Nasional has 51 years experience. But how will the opposition build up its track record or prove what it can do if it never gets to form the government? That is also called 'Catch 22'.

Maybe the Chinese can answer this question. But their answer will be the typical: better a devil you know than an angel you don't know. And then, after voting for Barisan Nasional, the Chinese will go on grumbling about how unfairly they have been treated by Umno, and that the non-Malay parties in Barisan Nasional are Umno running dogs, etc., etc., etc. And the Chinese are supposed to have received a better mother-tongue education than the Malays.
You could have fooled me.

"Our politicians lied to the people by saying they were doing good, and the people lied to the politicians by saying that they believed them"